Nonesense Statements in Poker
Annoying/Funny Poker Statements
Nonsense statements in poker
One of the most interesting parts of playing live poker are the friendly discussions about the game – its bad beats, and the situations it throws up. I feel that the internet is making people more knowledgeable about the way they talk about the game, but there are still some nonsense comments that come up again and again. They can be funny, but are also informative about the areas of the game that they wrongly describe.
Here are some of the ones that you will hear the most:-
“It was the first hand I’d had in ages”
This is an excuse often used to justify a call with a marginal poker hand, and sometimes a call all-in. This is of course nonsense, as your chances with a marginal hand are not influenced at all by whatever luck or bad luck you have received recently in the cards you are dealt.
There is one situation in which this statement could make sense, and that is if you are raising or making a play with a bad hand. The situation in which not having anything for ages could be relevant is if you haven’t played a hand for a long time, and have build up a tight image. However, if it is still a spot where you are unlikely to succeed, a lack of recent luck is still not an excuse for raising.
“ I was getting short, so I had to make a stand.”
This statement is ambiguous, but often is used to excuse a certain type of nonsense play, which you will see a lot at the tables. Many players, if they are down say to four or five big blinds, will make an all-in call against a raise with a low pocket pair or , or a weak ace hand like . They are right that they could do with a double up, but this is not a good enough reason to make a call, without any odds, where you are more likely to be behind or ahead.
With a low pocket pair, you will either be well behind to an overpair, or roughly 50-50% against two big cards. This brings about another nonsense statement when an opponent turns over , and the player with the pocket pair says “I’m ahead.” It is so close to 50-50% that it is best considered simply as a coin flip.
Calling all-in is not taking a stand. Making a move can be; if you have 12 big blinds, and a late position player raises to 3 times the big blind, is a great hand to move all-in with. This, however, brings us to the next nonsense statement, which is something like this….
“The guy on the button raised to 10,000. I had in the big blind, and pushed all-in for 24,000.”
This is not a push all-in. The reason is that your opponent will be faced with calling 14,000 to win over 48,000, and so will be forced to make the call. This is an area of the game which deceives many people, and it is important to think of this kind of move effectively as being an all-in call. In this situation, you would have to have at least as much as 35,000 in order to be able to make a push.
“I had in the big blind, and the under the gun player raised to four times the big blind. Five other players called, and so the pot was offering me 6 to 1, great odds to call.”
It is true that you are only having to put in a small amount compared to what is in the pot. However, you do not have good odds, as you still have to finish with the winning hand from seven runners, and you are probably starting off with the weakest hand.
It is only possible to talk properly of odds when you are considering a one-off bet. There really is no such thing as odds in this kind of situation, where you will have to put in more money if you do catch a piece of the flop, and indeed could invest a lot more money and still finish with the losing hand.
I’ll see you at the tables – Stuart “TrickyRock” Rutter.